[syslinux] Lost hotmail

Gene Cumm gene.cumm at gmail.com
Sat Jan 3 08:56:18 PST 2015


On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Geert Stappers <stappers at stappers.nl> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 05:07:04PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:06:58AM +0200, Ady wrote:
>> > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:21:32PM -0800, Patrick Masotta wrote:
>> > > >  [ ... Failed to build gnu-efi. ... ]
>> >
>> > For some reason I have not received the original email from Patrick
>> > Masotta in my inbox, so I am using the first reply sent by Geert in
>> > order to actually reply to the OP...
>>
>>
>> What is visible in the log files of the mail server
>> of the Syslinux mailinglist?
>>
>> Could the mailinglist mail server deliver to the hotmail mail server
>> that Ady is using?
>>
>>
>> The idea behind those questions is to find out where
>> the e-mail got lost for 'Ady <ady-sf AT hotmail DOT com>'
>>
>>
>> Additional information of the "lost" e-mail
>>  Message-ID: <1419193292.37517.YahooMailBasic at web161706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>>
>>  Received: from terminus.zytor.com (terminus.zytor.com [IPv6:2001:1868:205::10])
>>         by gpm.stappers.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80F313040F7
>>         for <stappers at stappers.nl>; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:43:35 +0100 (CET)
>>  Received: from terminus.zytor.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])
>>         by terminus.zytor.com (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id sBLKLk6j024306;
>>         Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:22:37 -0800
>>  Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
>>         (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.150])
>>         by terminus.zytor.com (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id sBLKLcnR024278
>>         for <syslinux at zytor.com>; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:21:43 -0800
>>
>>
>
> Addtional information:
>
> On 2014-12-30 got I as moderator of this ML bounce notification
> with text as
>
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <***@lnds.dk>
>     (reason: 550 5.7.1 The messages violates the DMARC policy of yahoo.com (83c3fcea-9015-11e4-95e4-b82a72d0454d))
> <***@xs4all.nl>
>     (reason: 550 5.7.1 DMARC failure for domain yahoo.com, policy reject)
> <***@yahoo.co.id>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <***@yahoo.co.in>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <***@yahoo.co.kr>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <**0 at yahoo.co.uk>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <**1 at yahoo.co.uk>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <**0 at yahoo.de>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <**1 at yahoo.de>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
> <**0 at yahoo.fr>
>     (reason: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons.  See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html)
>
>
>
> For those who have the power to change it:  Please do!

Reading over it, a simple TXT record for SPF might suffice:

  v=spf1 +mx ~all

My presumption is that Yahoo! spam policy now rates neutral responses
as spam and rejects (instead of rating them neutral and delivering to
a user's spam/junk mail folder).  In my opinion, it's a llittle absurd
for Yahoo! to take this approach but I also recognize that times are
evolving and it's a reactive security measure to a historically
insecure system.

-- 
-Gene


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